Eisegesis Alert
Charles has found a good example of eisegesis from a couple of heavyweights. I'm sure that this one is debatable. Check out his post.
posted by Daniel | 10:33 PM
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Hebrews 6:19. "We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure."
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6 Comments:
Thanks for the link.
One note:
Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. (NASB)
He can pretend that only Calvinists have a problem with this verse but the reality is that whatever view you hold it is a problem passage.
Here is the question we must ask:
"Is Jesus really saying that he wanted to save the people of Jerusalem but a select few were preventing him?" If so then we have a major problem. Not only can we personally resist the grace of God when Jesus is trying to save us ... BUT we can resist on another's behalf.
According to this view, if those in Jerusalem went on to be unsaved then A) it isn't because they were not elected and thus remained in their sin (calvinist), and it isn't because they resisted God / chose otherwise (Arminian). Rather, it is because ANOTHER person resisted God and chose otherwise!
This, of course, is not the right view and both Calvinists and Arminians can see this. So then, the question must become, What is Jesus saying?
The (in)famous CalvinistFlySwatter can call this Exegesis but this is simply following a basic principle of Hermeneutics - Scripture Interprets Scripture and we let the Easier (and more straightforward) passages guide our exegesis. On at least this point both Daniel and Charles should be able to agree.
In Christ alone,
mike
Nice one.
One of my best friends is a big fan of James White. He often gives me these sort of arguments.
God Bless
Matthew
Dyspraxic:
When you can't beat 'em, break their legs (ad-hominem)!
James White Responds on the Dividing Line to Charles' post.
http://www.aomin.org/dl18.ram
Daniel: I love this verse also.
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee how often would I have gathered her chicked under her wings, and ye would not!...For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord"
The prophets and those whom the Lord sent bought the law. The law was glorious in his sight and the Lord wanting Jerusalem to conform under his law for he gave it directly to them. He would have them be gathered under his wings but alas they would not.
This was a shadow of a more excellent Jerusalem and a Jew who is one inwardly whom the Lord would not lose. Nor would his lamenting be of judgement but of eternal life. For with them the Law would be done away with by a more excellent way. I will put my laws in their heart and in their mind says the Lord.
For if it were not for the Lords lament over Jerusalem this scripture could never be fullfilled.
... I will call them my people, which were not my peole; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people there shall they be called the children of the Living God.
This Lords lament over Jerusalem was because he had the true children of God in mind. Those whom he adopted spiritually who were not of the Physical Jerusalem. For not all Israel is Israel.
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